Today’s episode of Research Like a Pro is an interview with Suzanne Campbell Lowe. In 2005, Suzanne learned from a white cousin about her Campbell family’s connection — through slavery — to a black man named James Meredith. Over the course of the next several years, Suzanne’s white and black families have built their relationships and explored their descendancy from their common ancestor: a prominent white leader of the Confederacy named J.A.P. Campbell. Join us as we discuss Suzanne’s journey getting to know her black cousins and learning about African American research.
Transcript
Nicole (1s):
This is Research Like a Pro episode 201 Coming to the Table and African-American research with Suzanne Lowe. Welcome to Research Like a Pro a Genealogy Podcast about taking your research to the next level, hosted by Nicole Dyer and Diana Elder accredited genealogy professional. Diana and Nicole are the mother-daughter team at FamilyLocket.com and the authors of Research Like a Pro A Genealogist Guide. With Robin Wirthlin they also co-authored the companion volume, Research Like a Pro with DNA. Join Diana and Nicole as they discuss how to stay organized, make progress in their research and solve difficult cases.
Nicole (41s):
Let’s go. Hello everybody. Welcome to Research Like a Pro.
Diana (47s):
Hi, Nicole. How are you today?
Nicole (49s):
Hi mom. I’m great. I’m just enjoying the DNA study group and the opportunity to play around with some of the DNA tools like auto segment. And of course my favorite tool gephi, which I’ve been practicing using. What about you?
Diana (1m 2s):
I’ve been working on recreating my Royston surname project. It was a white DNA project that we did with Sorenson genomics in 2006, and those results were sold to ancestry. And then in, I think it was 2015 ancestry deleted all of it because of a controversy in the press and DNA and law enforcement. And so it was really sad that we lost that in the database, but all the test takers kept they’re either digital or they’re paper results. And so I’ve been gathering those up from various people and then entering them into the middle white DNA website, which lets you put in, you have to manually put in your actual markers for why DNA.
Diana (1m 49s):
So I’ve been recreating that, that project and then writing blog posts about it. So it’s been kind of fun because I was feeling so sad that I would not have access to that project. And so now I have it all together. There were six test takers, five of them matched our Virginia Ryson ancestor and one did not, and he is part of the Maryland line and it was just fun looking at it and seeing how much he differed like very different wide DNA signatures. That’s been a fun project. It was a little time consuming doing the manual data entry because once you do put the numbers in, you can’t go back and edit it. And I made a couple of mistakes. I had to redo it. I was getting really fast though, by the end, after I’d read, done a kid about three times, I thought I was being so careful, but you can help sometimes.
Diana (2m 35s):
It’s just like a lot of little numbers you’re trying to put in on your screen. Right.
Nicole (2m 39s):
Right. All those STR repeats and there’s 46 markers in that Sorenson test, right?
Diana (2m 44s):
Yeah. Yeah. But, but the website might a DNA actually makes it really easy to do it. Don’t get me wrong. It’s just, it was my connection between my brain and the computer trying to make sure I had the numbers. Right. So it was really fun and I’m really excited to have it redone. And I also drew out the lucid chart diagram of each of the test takers and their direct line back, which when we first did this, I didn’t even know that you were supposed to do that. And so I’ve learned so much about DNA since then and you know, put it all together. It was, it was pretty fun over the weekend to work on them.
Nicole (3m 18s):
Right. What year did you do all this testing?
Diana (3m 21s):
2006.
Nicole (3m 23s):
Yeah. That was a long time ago. Yeah. Well, good job. Getting that recreated. I’m excited that we have that now to access and see and view that evidence.
Diana (3m 32s):
Right. And interestingly enough of those six test takers, only one is still living and you have to get permission from a living person to enter their test in which, which I did. But if they’re deceased, you don’t worry about it. So, you know, that was, I guess, helpful for me that I didn’t have to try to get permission from each of the men.
Nicole (3m 53s):
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Diana (4m 25s):
Well, we’re excited to introduce our guests today. We have Suzanne lo here with us. Hi Suzanne.
Suzanne Lowe (4m 32s):
Hi. How are you, Nicole? Hi, Diana.
Diana (4m 34s):
We’re so glad you agreed to come on the podcast and talk about your experiences with genealogy and your ancestry. So let me give a little bio and then we’re going to jump in and ask you all sorts of questions because I am so curious about a lot of things here. So Suzanne Campbell lo has spent the majority of her adult life researching our family’s genealogy in 2005. She learned from a white cousin about the Campbell family’s connection through slavery to a black men named James Meredith over the course of the next several years, Suzanne’s white and black families have built their relationships and explored their descendancy from their common ancestor, a prominent white leader of the Confederacy named J a P Campbell, which is short for Josiah, Abigail Patterson, Campbell, Suzanne joined a group called coming to the table and a link descendant subgroup of that large group in the fall of 2021 in the groups get acquainted conversation.
Diana (5m 36s):
She shares some of her family story and the connections between Meredith and Campbell families. She told the attendees that are cousin iconic blacks, right activist James Meredith saw the reconnection of the Meredith Campbell families as a key possibility for healing and overcoming white supremacy. Wow. So interesting. And then interesting. Other things about Suzanne that she shared with us is that she has concentrated her last 25 years of genealogy work on her Northern family and then two and a half years ago, she moved to North Carolina to concentrate more on her Southern family. So that’s fun.
Diana (6m 16s):
How’s that going with your North Carolina research?
Suzanne Lowe (6m 20s):
Well, it’s a bit overwhelming, but it’s good. A good kind of overwhelming with my expanded perspectives about the interactions between the enslaved and enslavers and the descendants from those. I now am seeing my kind of discovery of my white ancestry, the North Carolina white ancestry in a completely different light. For example, I discovered a website called I think it’s, I’m not going to get this right, probably, but first families of North Carolina, which is really actually a depiction of white people who had plantations and people of means, you know, now I have come to have some skepticism about how dare we call ourselves first families.
Suzanne Lowe (7m 13s):
Right? It’s we aren’t really first at all. So all the work I’ve been doing, discovering my connections to my black cousins has changed my understanding about how we account for ourselves, how we name ourselves in history. So yeah, I am descended from what I think are five or six families on this list, but it’s not really first. I don’t believe that at all.
Diana (7m 41s):
Well, we did have this group of people here before us, right? All the indigenous people, the native Americans, lots of different tribes that were actually here first. So it is interesting how we, how we look at things and it’s really good to explore these ideas. It makes us better researchers when we do that. So I just wanted to mention my connection, like how I discovered you. We had one of our, I think she was a reader or listener. Anyway, Connie Davis reached out to me and told me about this coming to the table project. And she had done some work with another project called the youth black heritage project at Wiki tree.
Diana (8m 26s):
And I was really interested in that and asked her to write a blog post for us on family locket, which she did. And then she said, you also might want to know about Suzanne lo and the work that she’s doing and her story. And then she sent me a link to the video and I watched that and was so fascinated. Can you just tell our listeners a minute about what that was all about? You know, how that culminated all of this work that you had done?
Suzanne Lowe (8m 55s):
Absolutely. Thanks for asking. We had a picnic, blacks and white descendants of Josiah, Abigail Patterson Campbell last April, 2021 in Jackson, Mississippi at that time, many family members said, wow, we must tell our story. It’s, it’s a very unique story as I’ll share. If you’d like during our time today, it was an interesting process to try to find an organization that would be willing to work with with us. As we created something that had never been created before and coming to the table was the perfect partner. It has a linked descendants group, as you’ve mentioned.
Suzanne Lowe (9m 37s):
And it is a place where people who are working across the color lines, if you will, whether they are actually cousins by blood or not, but linked descendants, they have been linked through being descended from an enslavers or the enslaved. We created a story about J P Campbell and his connection to his black family. You know, it’s not a hugely unique story in that more and more, we learn that white Confederate leaders, white plantation owners did have relations with the women who were working on their plantations.
Suzanne Lowe (10m 24s):
Nowadays, you may not have a statistic about this, but I would argue the majority of American blacks, especially in the south have had some descendants from a white person. It’s not unusual now to find that out. Well, when we put our program together, we worked across the cousin lines, fascinating perspectives research that each side had done oral history on the part of the black cousins, mostly, but also artifacts, et cetera. From the white side, we shared wills. We shared pictures of items.
Suzanne Lowe (11m 6s):
We created this presentation and coming to the table, hosted it for us February 20th, 2022. And yes, the 90 minute recording is now on YouTube. It’s fascinating time together.
Diana (11m 23s):
Oh, that’s great. Well, we can link to that in the show notes because I really enjoyed watching that and learning about both the J a P Campbell and then James Meredith, who I had never heard of this black rights activists. And it was fascinating to learn a little bit more about both sides of the story and to see, you know, the cousins, the black and the white cousins coming together and talking such a great role model, I think for anyone discovering that type of ancestry. So yeah, I’m so glad that I was able to get connected with you and your project and, and see what you’ve been doing.
Suzanne Lowe (12m 6s):
Thank you.
Nicole (12m 7s):
We have mentioned coming to the table a couple of times, and for anybody listening, who doesn’t know what that is, can you just tell us what is the coming to the table organization?
Suzanne Lowe (12m 18s):
Certainly. And I would encourage people to click on the link of that. I know you will put in your show notes. Also. I am relatively new to this organization. It’s a nonprofit, I believe it’s around 15 years old or so I believe there are about 6,000 plus members across the country and maybe internationally, even it is blacks. It is whites people who are working together to overcome the legacy of slavery. I think mostly focused on the United States. Of course, as we know, slavery is an international quote unquote institution and slavery does exist even today, but it is an organization dedicated to working together to help us heal from the racial injustice of slavery.
Nicole (13m 12s):
Thank you for describing that.
Suzanne Lowe (13m 14s):
Sure.
Nicole (13m 15s):
Have you ever had people question about the DNA proof for your black cousins?
Suzanne Lowe (13m 21s):
Oh yes, absolutely. I’m in my search to find a partner to help us tell our unique story. I did approach an organization that I thought might be a good partner for us. Their focus is genealogical research. I told them the story about our unique connection, the work that James Meredith himself has done to shed to light the white supremacy activities of our common ancestor, J P Campbell, who was when he died in 1917, the last living signer of the Confederate states of America constitution sharing these details with this particular organization.
Suzanne Lowe (14m 10s):
And of course the very strong oral history that has been passed down through the generations. On the Meredith side, I was really, really surprised when they said, well, you know, we are a research organization and in order to work with you, we would have to explore all of the various platforms for credibility. And we would require Mr. Meredith or a male member of the Meredith family to take a DNA test, to prove lineage with the white Campbell side. I was to put it mildly shocked about, and I did speak to Mr.
Suzanne Lowe (14m 55s):
Meredith about this. He said, absolutely not. There is enough circumstantial evidence that it would be an insult. He said to be asked to prove it just another form of racial discrimination. He said, and I happened to agree with him that the bottom line is DNA is a relatively recent research tool and oral history is in fact it should be, I suppose, an accepted pathway to explore further connections between whites and blacks.
Suzanne Lowe (15m 34s):
There is no reason why they could not have explored a partnership with us. I imagine someday someone will do some kind of DNA proof, but I must say there are so many physical pieces of evidence, for example, health issues that have been passed down through the Campbell line, both to the white Campbell’s and the black Meredith’s. I don’t need DNA proof.
Nicole (16m 3s):
Well, that’s such an interesting question, you know, is there enough documentary evidence and oral tradition that, you know, we don’t need that DNA. And I think that’s just fine for him to say no that, you know, and, and oftentimes there is plenty of documentary evidence for a relationship. So, you know, in genealogy standards that just says that to claim that it’s a biological relationship to genetic evidence is used, but that, you know, in all of the studying that we’ve done about this topic, it comes down to the question of families exist in many different forms and the family who raised a person or who they lived with or who they were associated with is often the family that we can prove with that oral tradition and the documentary evidence.
Nicole (16m 50s):
And so unless we’re dying to prove that there’s an actual blood genetic kinship, often we don’t need to incorporate that DNA evidence. And I think that’s really fortunate that the group didn’t want to work with you without that DNA evidence, because many people are not comfortable with DNA testing. And, and so that can be an issue to think about as well.
Suzanne Lowe (17m 14s):
Totally agree.
Diana (17m 16s):
Yeah. That is an interesting perspective. And I love what you said, Nicole, that it is just about families and DNA does not need to be involved in every single bit of our family history. Well, Suzanne, I think I can guess the answer to this question, but how did you become interested in African-American research?
Suzanne Lowe (17m 37s):
I’ll remember the day very vividly in 2005, as you’ve mentioned in your intro, I was shown an article written by James Meredith, who I knew from my history studies in school. The article was called the father of white supremacy, and my jaw just hit the floor as I read this article, talking in great detail and yes, with amazing documentary evidence about this connection, you know, J P Campbell is my cousin, James Meredith’s great-grandfather and this gentlemen J P Campbell is my great great-grandfather.
Suzanne Lowe (18m 21s):
And I was very surprised to read information about this gentleman with way more specificity than I ever heard from my own grandfather, my own father. It just caused an explosion on my part, an explosion of research about the civil war, about slavery and about the relationships between enslavers and the enslaved. It sort of set me off on this trajectory of realizing how variable it is, the way people capture history. I just mentioned oral history, but I found out there were writings from my ancestor, J P Campbell writings by him and writings about him.
Suzanne Lowe (19m 6s):
I plunged into looking at census records, et cetera. And I found, you know, so many mysteries, so many things that were verified. It’s really actually been a lifelong interest. Now, since that time in 2005, it’s just a new look at the history of the United States and about my understanding of what happened and how my family was involved in what happened.
Diana (19m 37s):
I think that is true for anyone that finds this, and we’ve certainly seen it in our own ancestry. And we see it in that of our clients or other people we talk with, you know, you’re doing your research on your Southern ancestor, and then you get a hint that they’re in the slave schedule. And then you see that they owned several slaves and it, it can rock your world. It can be really distressing, but the whole genealogy family history focus really helps, you know, to make these connections, which is exactly what you found with discovering the Meredith connection. So in the video, I was really interested that when you called John Meredith, who was the oldest son of James, correct?
Diana (20m 25s):
Yes. You were nervous. Tell us just a little bit about that phone call.
Suzanne Lowe (20m 30s):
Oh, it was actually my call to James Meredith John’s father. I did tell the story. Yeah, no, it’s a good, it’s a good question. Having read this article in 2005, you know, it did rock my world that took me probably two weeks to get my mind around the fact that I had a black cousin and that my family, my white family had never talked about this. Knowing at the time also how, how much James Meredith had done to advocate for black citizenship rights. The fact that there was an army, the national guard was called to the campus of Ole miss university of Mississippi.
Suzanne Lowe (21m 13s):
People died in 1962 so that he could go to college. I felt that he might be fairly bitter against white people. And I was nervous then not only about his fame, because he’s continued to advocate for total black citizenship rights. Now, you know, I’ll be honest. I was just, you know, a nervous white woman, ha not having had a lot of connection to, to blacks. And here I was thinking about introducing myself to one. As my cousin, I called him up. His phone number was not hard to find on the internet. I was kind of shocked that he answered the phone by himself on the first or second ring.
Suzanne Lowe (21m 58s):
And I said, Mr. Meredith, my name is Suzanne Campbell. Lo I have learned about your article, the father of white supremacy. And I’m also done a lot of family genealogical research. I believe we might be cousins. And then there was this long pause. I thought my heart was going to leap out of my chest. I thought he’s going to hang up on me or I’ll be yelled at instead. He said, well, I’ve been waiting for this call for 50 years.
Diana (22m 37s):
Oh my goodness. I just think that’s amazing. And then look at what’s come of it.
Suzanne Lowe (22m 41s):
Yeah.
Diana (22m 42s):
Great story.
Suzanne Lowe (22m 43s):
It did require some bravery on my part, given his very public stance about overcoming white supremacy and recognizing my own white privilege, nothing I’ve done myself. I just, it was just bestowed upon me and realizing that part of that was because my white Confederate great, great grandfather wrote laws that are still in place in the United States today that have hardwired white supremacy. And I’m the recipient of that.
Diana (23m 17s):
Yeah. We all have everything in our family background. Don’t we’ve got all types of ancestors, some of them weren’t good. So maybe not so good. We want to believe the best of them. But you know, there are facts that we are not always excited about.
Suzanne Lowe (23m 33s):
Yes. Ma’am
Nicole (23m 35s):
What advice would you give to anyone who has recently discovered European African-American descendancy either from an enslaved or an enslaved individual?
Suzanne Lowe (23m 46s):
Well, I would have three points to make on that. Not in particular order, but here we go. The first point would be to prepare for frustration. You know, whites are used to expecting a ton of accuracy and depending on the written word, we look for evidence. As we’ve talked about already, we look for documentation. We look for census records. We look for, you know, taxation and we look for land grants. These things were well-documented for the whites side of our history. I used to be a stickler for these kinds of sources and, you know, I still search for them. I still am a stickler for them.
Suzanne Lowe (24m 26s):
But my understanding about research for African-American descendency and ancestry is, is different in blacks. Black history is much more orally based as you’ve already heard me mentioned. I have labored to keep up with my black cousins who have just a stunning amount of knowledge of history and family connections and things that happened that have been passed down over the course of generations. Storytelling is so huge in the black tradition and, you know, folks, this is as credible as what you find in the books.
Suzanne Lowe (25m 13s):
In fact, I would argue it’s incumbent upon me as a white genealogical researcher to capture this information. I’ve tried to do that. You know, the stories about how J P Campbell would sit on the side of the town green and instruct his black grandson in the ways of the world, the importance of land ownership, the importance of self-esteem and confidence. They were not allowed to document this. These things were against the law, literally in those days and post civil war years, but they are in fact, the truth, these things actually happened.
Suzanne Lowe (25m 58s):
And my own next step is to create a website on my Confederate ancestor, this guy, JP Campbell, and targeting it to academicians and historians and researchers and journalists and students, and anybody who wants a centralized source for information on a very complex man who’s outlining. I mean, he was the architect of white supremacy laws that as I’ve mentioned, are in the books today, but he also advocated for his black family, and this has not been documented. So we’re going to try to document some of these things through capturing the oral traditions, that if not documented, they become disappeared because they will die with the people who didn’t get to write them down.
Suzanne Lowe (26m 43s):
So frustration is my first point
Nicole (26m 46s):
And that’s a real, you know, real common problem. I think in African-American genealogy research with having little direct evidence of relationships that far back in time, because of the, the lack of record keeping for African Americans and, and the enslaved. And so I’m glad you said that first, that it is frustrating.
Suzanne Lowe (27m 7s):
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I do see more now as being written, I’ve mentioned to you both a book called the other Madison’s by a woman named Betty Kersey, and I sent you a link about that. It’s a story about a black family who oral tradition. They are descended from United States, fourth, president James Madison. They also don’t have DNA evidence, but my gosh, the story is, oh my gosh, hundreds of pages of fascinating credible oral history about this family. Another is you might’ve heard about George Washington’s this quote unquote speculation of whether or not he had a black son named west Ford.
Suzanne Lowe (27m 52s):
There’s also a link to a Wikipedia article about him. He was a slave who was freed after the civil war. You know, you kind of look at that as well. That’s oral history too.
Nicole (28m 6s):
Yeah. Thank you for including the link to that Wikipedia article about west Ford and that’s, you know, something interesting to research has been George Washington’s family and just reminds me of the very first genetic genealogy article that came out in the national genealogical society quarterly about Sally Hemings and her children as well. And so it’s definitely a topic that a lot of genealogists are interested in and something that we could all learn more about. So thank you.
Suzanne Lowe (28m 35s):
You’re welcome. On the second point would be just to read up on the general culture of slavery. I have just devoured as many books that I can get on the whole idea of what it was like during those times. One that I liked a lot. It’s very, very academic, but it’s got some interesting stuff it’s called within the plantation household, subtitled black and white women of the old south by Elizabeth Fox Genovese. It’s published by UNC press. Well, I did not know a lot about what it was like being on a plantation for a black person for white people.
Suzanne Lowe (29m 18s):
You know, we think that blacks just had an oral tradition because that’s just the way they did it. Well, in fact, they were not allowed to learn, to read and write. We made it that they didn’t have a way to write things down. We did not catalog them until the 1850 and the 1860 censuses, the slave schedules as you’ve referenced, but slavery had been around for gosh, hundreds of years before that. So I just think for one who has discovered European, and African-American, descendancy just really do your homework on the entire culture, the general culture of slavery, and you’ll get a much better sense of what you’re facing as you get deeper and deeper into the research question.
Suzanne Lowe (30m 6s):
The last point is if you do have the opportunity to connect with, even if it’s not by by blood, but as we say, linked to sentence, maybe you’ve discovered some descendants of slaves from a particular white family member that you are connected to from the days of slavery. If you happen to find a blood relations like I did just get to know them. We, for example, are doing a monthly family zoom. I facilitate this with the black Meredith’s and the white Campbell’s. We have introduced ourselves to many, many white and black cousins.
Suzanne Lowe (30m 46s):
The circle is expanding and we have sometimes difficult conversations. We just had a difficult conversation the other night, actually about how much do we want to say about white supremacy? Is it going to derail our connections and our growing deepening relationships with each other? How can we in fact face this whole arena, but the point of our family program on February 20th, 2022 was that family love can be the beginning of a racial healing and that we might all benefit from listening to each other.
Nicole (31m 25s):
What a lot of bull zoom call a family reunion, whatever you want to call it, how wonderful that you’re doing that. And continuing the relationship after that first phone call with your cousin, and then continuing to spend time together and get to know each other and what a wonderful and healing step that is.
Suzanne Lowe (31m 45s):
Yeah. We are actually working together to find more documentary evidence of the woman who was the beginning of the Meredith line, a slave named Millie brown. Where was she who enslaved her? Where did she live after the civil war and working together with my black cousins to, to find her has been very rewarding.
Diana (32m 10s):
That’s so neat. And I’m so excited to take a look at the book that you recommended within the plantation household, black and white women of the old south. I looked at the link and it looks like you can preview quite a bit of the book. You know, it’s a, it’s a big book, but there’s a lot that you can see just online to give you some really good context about what this was like. So I always appreciate recommendations for good books and our know that if I get that I’ll, I’ll be sharing from it. That’s what I like to do.
Suzanne Lowe (32m 43s):
Thank you.
Diana (32m 45s):
So we’re probably getting to the end of our podcast, but I just a couple more questions. What erroneous assumptions did you bring into your search for your enslaved ancestors?
Suzanne Lowe (32m 57s):
I guess one of my erroneous assumptions was that I would have no trouble finding information about even someone famous. In fact, there are some unsavory aspects of his life that I believe have been suppressed back to the notion of being frustrated, even in our research about historical events, there are certain facts that are hard to verify and it takes real diligence and not just an internet search. I mean, I’m going to have to go to the various law libraries. I’ve in fact found there are special collections.
Suzanne Lowe (33m 39s):
I would encourage some of your listeners who are finding gaps in some of their genealogical research. You know, if you happen to know, for example, where an ancestor went to college or high school, or, you know, a public institution where that person might’ve been involved, I have found documents that have been donated to special collections libraries that are not on the internet. So I guess I would say my erroneous assumptions for that. I could just find stuff on the internet. It’s not the case. It’s not all there.
Diana (34m 16s):
I’m really glad you said that because especially for African-American research, you do have to take a lot deeper and it’s not as easy. There are better things being put out there all the time, but still, and it takes discipline. Don’t you think? Just tracking it down.
Suzanne Lowe (34m 32s):
Yeah. And perseverance, the article that James Meredith wrote, I mean, it is not in a common circulation, but it’s, it opened up a treasure trove of knowledge about our family. That genealogical research by itself could not have discovered it’s a giant puzzle.
Diana (34m 53s):
It is, it is well for someone listening and they’ve just discovered, you know, some connection to an African-American person, whether enslaved or not, because there were free people of color also, you know, in the family tree. But what would you recommend for just getting started?
Suzanne Lowe (35m 12s):
Oh, just getting started. I would highly recommend your own podcasts. I hope you’ll tell people those podcasts that I think it was a series of three or four about African-American research. And I had done a lot of the same things that you have said in your series, but not all of them. And I, for anybody who’s just getting started, I would really recommend your podcasts on African-American research.
Diana (35m 40s):
Oh, great. Well, thank you so much. I’m glad you enjoyed it. You know, I took that series from an Institute course. I took from Dr. Deborah Abbott to it’s just a wonderful researcher and teacher. And so it’s part of my learning process, you know, to spit it back out in another format, which became blog posts and then podcasts. So it helps me remember what I’ve learned at I’m so glad it was helpful for you.
3 (36m 4s):
Yes. Great. Yes.
Nicole (36m 6s):
Yeah. Those were episodes 121 through 124. And they’re also based on blog posts, if you prefer reading. So you can check that out in the show notes, we’ll have links to those.
Diana (36m 17s):
All right. Well, Suzanne, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and telling us your story and just giving such a great perspective on what you’re doing with, to use the term of the website coming to the table with your black cousins and making these connections. I think that’s just really exciting to see that happening. So thank you.
Suzanne Lowe (36m 39s):
You’re entirely welcome. And I’m happy to connect with you again, if that’s what you’d like to do.
Nicole (36m 45s):
Thanks so much. I hope you all listening, enjoyed this episode and we will talk to you again next week. Bye bye.
Diana (36m 52s):
Bye. Bye everyone.
Nicole (37m 30s):
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Coming to the Table Website – https://comingtothetable.org/
James Meredith – iconic black rights activist – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Meredith
Bettye Kearse, The Other Madisons: The Lost History of a President’s Black Family (Mariner Books, 2020). https://www.bettyekearse.com/
George Washington’s black son West Ford – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Ford_(slave)
Elizabeth Fox-Genovese, Within the Plantation Household: Black and White Women of the Old South (University of North Carolina Press, 1988). https://uncpress.org/book/9780807842324/within-the-plantation-household/
RLP 121: African American Research Part 1 – https://familylocket.com/rlp-121-african-american-research-part-1/
RLP 122: African American Research Part 2 – https://familylocket.com/rlp-122-african-american-research-part-2/
RLP 123: African American Research Part 3 – https://familylocket.com/rlp-123-african-american-research-part-3/
RLP 124: Researching African American Ancestors Part 4 – https://familylocket.com/rlp-124-researching-african-american-ancestors-part-4/
Iconic Activist James Meredith’s Black and White Families Forge a New Frontier Together – YouTube recording of the Meredith / Campbell families’ program – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_zDsG3YB0&t=7s
James Meredith, The Father of White Supremacy (Meredith Pub, 1995). James Meredith’s article, available for purchase here – https://www.jamesmeredithonline.com/books/father-white-supremacy
Research Like a Pro Resources
Research Like a Pro: A Genealogist’s Guide book by Diana Elder with Nicole Dyer on Amazon.com – https://amzn.to/2x0ku3d
Research Like a Pro eCourse – independent study course – https://familylocket.com/product/research-like-a-pro-e-course/
RLP Study Group – upcoming group and email notification list – https://familylocket.com/services/research-like-a-pro-study-group/
Research Like a Pro with DNA Resources
Research Like a Pro with DNA: A Genealogist’s Guide to Finding and Confirming Ancestors with DNA Evidence book by Diana Elder, Nicole Dyer, and Robin Wirthlin – https://amzn.to/3gn0hKx
Research Like a Pro with DNA eCourse – independent study course – https://familylocket.com/product/research-like-a-pro-with-dna-ecourse/
RLP with DNA Study Group – upcoming group and email notification list – https://familylocket.com/services/research-like-a-pro-with-dna-study-group/
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